1 00:00:05,510 --> 00:00:02,149 got my wings down in corpus christi 2 00:00:07,190 --> 00:00:05,520 texas in 1944 3 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:07,200 may the 15th 4 00:00:12,070 --> 00:00:10,559 we were called to the flight line to 5 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:12,080 investigate a 6 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:14,480 object that was flying over the or 7 00:00:19,349 --> 00:00:16,560 moving around over this 8 00:00:20,230 --> 00:00:19,359 hanford ordnance works 9 00:00:23,670 --> 00:00:20,240 the 10 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:23,680 objects had been detected on a radar 11 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:25,760 down in the 12 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:27,599 neck of the columbia river 13 00:00:31,830 --> 00:00:28,960 just west of 14 00:00:33,430 --> 00:00:31,840 the naval air station near pasco 15 00:00:35,670 --> 00:00:33,440 when we got down there they told us that 16 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:35,680 this bogey was out there right over the 17 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,840 hanford ordnance works and 18 00:00:42,389 --> 00:00:40,079 directed the lieutenant commander brown 19 00:00:44,709 --> 00:00:42,399 to take off and challenge him 20 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:44,719 and since ct neil from 21 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:46,879 south carolina 22 00:00:52,950 --> 00:00:50,160 and i stayed on the ground ct went down 23 00:00:56,150 --> 00:00:52,960 and got in another success to back up 24 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,160 with brown if he needed it and i went up 25 00:01:01,590 --> 00:00:58,800 to the control tower to 26 00:01:05,590 --> 00:01:01,600 relay the information from a 27 00:01:08,149 --> 00:01:05,600 radar office to brown and we talked back 28 00:01:11,670 --> 00:01:08,159 and forth we got brown up there behind 29 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:11,680 us objects and i was asking what he saw 30 00:01:16,710 --> 00:01:14,880 he said all i can see is a bright red or 31 00:01:19,190 --> 00:01:16,720 a reddish-orange 32 00:01:21,429 --> 00:01:19,200 fireball right up in front of me 33 00:01:23,190 --> 00:01:21,439 there's no form no 34 00:01:25,510 --> 00:01:23,200 substance to us whatsoever this is 35 00:01:29,429 --> 00:01:25,520 bright light at the time he started in 36 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:29,439 africa the radar man estimated that the 37 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:31,520 speed was probably around 38 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:35,360 60 to 70 knots okay translated into 39 00:01:40,550 --> 00:01:37,759 miles per hour that's probably 65 to 40 00:01:42,069 --> 00:01:40,560 75.76 41 00:01:44,789 --> 00:01:42,079 miles an hour 42 00:01:46,789 --> 00:01:44,799 but when brown got behind it it started 43 00:01:50,069 --> 00:01:46,799 moving away and he kept getting closer 44 00:01:51,350 --> 00:01:50,079 and far enough that s6 faster and faster 45 00:01:53,270 --> 00:01:51,360 and faster 46 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:53,280 but anyway when he did that 47 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:55,600 the objects whatever it was just took 48 00:02:00,310 --> 00:01:57,920 off and went boom boom 49 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,320 just here out of sight no noise and i 50 00:02:04,389 --> 00:02:02,240 thought he wouldn't hurt his enemies 51 00:02:06,870 --> 00:02:04,399 stuff if there was any noise 52 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:06,880 but that i just went off and left him 53 00:02:13,030 --> 00:02:10,000 and he circled up there 54 00:02:15,190 --> 00:02:13,040 for oh i would say probably half hour 55 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:15,200 maybe three quarters of an hour 56 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:17,040 and nothing ever happened again but it 57 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:19,360 had headed off into the northwest 58 00:02:23,030 --> 00:02:21,360 towards seattle so can you tell me a 59 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:23,040 little bit more about what the object 60 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:24,080 looked like 61 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:28,160 all that object was was a fireball 62 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:29,120 and 63 00:02:35,270 --> 00:02:33,440 figure out what it was he said it was so 64 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,280 bright he couldn't hardly stand it when 65 00:02:39,910 --> 00:02:37,440 he was getting closer to it but he said 66 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:39,920 he soon got out of range where it was 67 00:02:44,790 --> 00:02:42,720 nothing more than just a bowl of light 68 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:44,800 there was no form or no 69 00:02:50,070 --> 00:02:47,519 noise to it that he could detect but the 70 00:02:52,790 --> 00:02:50,080 worst part of all of this is that my 71 00:02:55,750 --> 00:02:52,800 wrong book never showed 72 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:55,760 our experience and i don't know yet why 73 00:02:59,110 --> 00:02:56,560 but 74 00:03:01,750 --> 00:02:59,120 the navy ignored that or at least did 75 00:03:03,509 --> 00:03:01,760 not tell anybody about that and didn't 76 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:03,519 put anything in my logbook so i could 77 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:05,680 refer back to know what night it was